||[Nov. 17th, 2004|12:20 pm]
There are two very famous websites now circulating through web users.|
Sorry Everybody and its European counterpart Apologies Accepted .
These websites are based around the liberal agenda, and even though I am a liberal, I find these websites to be really out there, in terms of making a statement or movement towards the cause of getting more liberals in power.
Do you think these websites could have any effect on the conservative agenda, or are they just harming the liberal agenda with silly messages? Could there be a more effective way to deal with this issue?
Respond with how you see fit. This is an open discussion.
Yeah - those "Kerry/idiot" images wouldn't need to be made...
The right wing already made those a few months ago.
Now they're making images with the terms "Kerry" and "loser" in them.
The right wing chiding the left wing on the terms of either morality or maturity is, frankly, a laughable assertion. :)
Frankly, both sides go overboard with it.
Bush isn't my President. He never will be. I can't respect a person who has in the past rigged elections and, quite possibly, has rigged the latest one. Before you say it - yes, there is evidence that the last election was rigged, and there is some evidence that points to this past election being rigged. And that's not "silly", it's the voice of a citizen who is concerned about the legitimacy of our government and electoral process.
The only voice of reason right now is one that says that there must be open and honest third party, non-biased investigations of the electoral process in this past November's election.
Anyone crying "but that's just silly" is being obstructive to a process that is necessary to prove the legitimacy of the sitting president. People only hide things when they have something to hide.
Eh? Who's gone to therapy? :)
(btw, I think that the guy who killed himself at the WTC was nuts... clearly... but, he doesn't represent the left. Remember, there were cases of right-wingers killing themselves when Clinton was elected.)
Well, if the left has just gone crazy we still have a long way to go before we get to the asylum-headed level of insanity in the right. :)
I mean, the right has people like Coburn and DeMint to represent them. Coburn is a loon who thinks that flagburners should be killed and DeMint is a woman-hating racist.
The worst that the right can attack on the left is Michael Moore and Hillary Clinton. So, perhaps our definitions of "plum crazy" are different. :)
I don't see how they are harming the liberal agenda. How is it more harmful to the liberals than Bill O'Reilly is to the conservatives? It's just a way for people to express their dismay, and a way for the liberals in America to build bridges with Europeans. Bush has done his fair share of trashing relationships with our overseas allies, but someday he will be gone, and letthing the world know that we don't all agree with Bush is a reminder to us and them that we are not a monolithic, arrogant, run-amok superpower. America is divided, please don't hold it against all of us after Bush is gone. Conservatives may think it's silly or even anti-American, but I think it's a combination of venting, and thinking of the long-term.
I, personally, could care less what conservatives think about our actions. The more it angers conservatives, frankly, the more I support it these days.
And. to be fair, I expect nothing different from the conservative side. Of course, that's what we on the left have been given this past four years. The conservative wing of our society is quite well versed in divisive party politics. On the left, we're only relearned these old lessons just now.
I agree with you in some sense that I also really "don't care" what the far right thinks of liberals... nothing a liberal does will ever please them. Liberals may be concerned about what the more moderate folks think, but I think they've been going about it the wrong way--and this has nothing whatever to do with the apologies being sent overseas. If conservatives are still harping on this during the next election they are the ones that are going to look foolish (and I take a certain pleasure in anticipating it).